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Bill Coberly's avatar

I think about this all the time! Rebecca West talks about meeting people who seem "insufficiently characterized," which I also think about all the time. We want our villains to be complex, interesting people with some sort of tragic backstory to explain why they are "like that," but sometimes in the real world the villains don't appear to have much of that. This guy just sucks, is all! He appears to have always sucked, he sucks today, and he will probably suck tomorrow, for no particularly obvious reason; he may have some internal pathos that is invisible to us that might render him more sympathetic if we could see him from the point of view of God, but for the rest of us mortals who have to deal with this guy, he just sucks! He is not even unique in his racism or general jackassery or whatever, just a walking collection of cliches, and yet he is a real person who makes our lives miserable. Fiction about real people should at least sometimes reflect this truth!

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Gemma's avatar

I saw Mickey 17 last week. Mark Ruffalo plays this populist politician and CEO cult leader (with red-hatted followers) who's obsessed with TV and the "purity" of the icy planet he plans to colonise. He's not so much a parody as a near-perfect blend of Trump, Musk and co. You're right that it's hard to think of many examples in Fantasy of the real life evil person who's just not that interesting or complex. I think scifi more easily allows for that type of villain - one so congruent with contemporary reality. Maybe it's easier to imagine the banality of evil combined with space ships and outlandish technology than it is to situate it within something so strange and primordial as magic.

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