Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Richard Jackson's avatar

I just wanted to confirm that it was Franzen who gave that Wallace line to the world, and also felt compelled to put it into the mouth of a Wallace-like musician who sleeps with wife of the Franzen-like protagonist of Freedom. There was, perhaps, a lot going on in his relationship with Wallace.

I've enjoyed what I've read of Gaiman's well enough but was always put off by his social media presence. I recall seeing him post an email he'd received from a fan without much disposable income pleading for access to his Master Class courses, to enlist his followers to crowdfund their tuition, and the act of drawing on his fans' generosity to make sure another fan could only access his advice after being charged for it was something I found really distasteful. It didn't make me think he would turn out to be a sexual predator but always soured his cloying public persona for me.

Expand full comment
braak's avatar

I also wonder if it's worth trying to understand the impetus of making art itself not as a precursor to this kind of predation -- I made art as a means to and end of becoming a predator -- but as a consequence of the desire for predation itself. That is, how many of this type of artists do what they do precisely *because* art can be manipulative? I remember having a conversation with Amanda Palmer once, where she was saying she was mad about the guy in the front row of her concert trying to sing along to the songs, because she felt it was sort of disrespectful -- "I'm trying to give you this experience, and you're not accepting it," is (roughly) what I remember her saying.

And I don't mean that all artists or narcissists, and I don't even think I mean that some art is pure because it comes from good motivations and some art is necessarily secretly degraded because it comes from evil ones -- I don't think there's any real reason to believe that great art can't come from the absolute worst possible places -- but that there's something about the way that art can affect another person that's appealing to the kind of person that wants to control and dominate other people.

Expand full comment
7 more comments...

No posts